“It
is absolutely impossible that while the rest of the world was drowning, most of
the
British Isles, Scandinavia and Canada escaped. There can only be one solution,
i.e. the ice age struck these
lands at the same time as the Noachian Deluge”.
Terry
Lawrence
“Has Velikovsky Correctly Placed the Ice Age?”, asked Terry Lawrence of
New Zealand (in Chronology and
Catastrophism Workshop, SIS,
May 1988, Number 1, p. 41):
…. Many times in Worlds in Collision and Earth in Upheaval Dr
Velikovsky equates the beginning of the Pleistocene or ice age with the time of
the Exodus, circa 1450 BC. On pages 114-126 of Earth in Upheaval he
gives a graphic description of what he thinks happened when the ice age began.
The description however sounds more like the Noachian Deluge than the Exodus.
We can therefore expect Velikovsky to run into problems with his placement of
the Noah/Saturn Flood and the events of that time. Presumably Velikovsky must
place the Deluge in the era prior to the Pleistocene (Glacial Age). A check of
the chart on p. l84 of Earth in Upheaval will show this period is known
as the Tertiary or “Age of Mammals”. Under the conventional time scale it is
allocated 70 million years and is followed by one million years of the ice age
and then followed by 30,000 years of the Recent or Holocene Age. This system is
greatly overstretched, Velikovsky claims, and does not allow for any great
catastrophes.
In order to show that Velikovsky’s placement of the ice age is incorrect
we must show that the conventional scheme is also wrong and also have some idea
of the time-span Velikovsky allows for the period from the Deluge to the
Exodus. The only clue he gives us is found on p.55 of his article “Seismology,
Catastrophe and Chronology” (Kronos VIII:4). Here he notes that Dr
Schaeffer has discerned that in the 4th millennium BC the ancient Near East
went through great paroxysms before the time of another disaster in the Early
Bronze Age (3rd millennium). Velikovsky comments “Schaeffer like
myself … arrived at the same number of disturbances … and the same relative
dating”. Assuming from this that the disaster before the Early Bronze
Age was the Deluge, and placing it in the 4th millennium at 3450 BC then we
obtain a figure of 2000 years for the time Velikovsky would have placed between
the Deluge and the Exodus.
Pick up a copy of Kummel’s History of the Earth and glance at
pp.447-455 and you will see the fallacy of this time-gap. The maps on these
pages clearly show that during the Tertiary Age Europe, North Africa and Asia
Minor were in a state of complete ruin, being mostly under water. Note in
particular the Great Tethys or Central Sea which stretches 9000 miles from
Spain to India and is up to 2000 miles wide. On p.453 the map for the Oligocene
subdivision of the Tertiary shows that the sea invasion of Europe plainly stops
at the boundary of the area covered by the ice age in Scandinavia. This is
curious because under the conventional scheme the ice age does not occur for
another 23 million years. During the Eocene subdivision of the Tertiary the sea
covered the south of England up to a point where the later ice age reached,
supposedly 38 million years later. During the whole period of these disastrous
sea invasions and large scale fresh water floodings the northern part of the
British Isles along with Scandinavia was not touched. In North America it is a
similar story for the Canadian Shield. While the rest of the continent was
subject to sea incursions, rain storm flooding in the mid-west and volcanic
eruptions in the Rockies and Central America all was tranquil in north-east
Canada.
It is absolutely impossible that while the rest of the world was
drowning, most of the British Isles, Scandinavia and Canada escaped. There can
only be one solution, i.e. the ice age struck these lands at the same
time as the Noachian Deluge. Conventional geologists have therefore
reconstructed the ages of the past incorrectly by placing too much time between
the end of the Tertiary and the ice age. If either follows immediately or
happens at the same time as the subdivisions of the Tertiary i.e. the
Eocene, Oligocene, Miocene and Pliocene periods are all contemporary with one
another). Failing to grasp this, Velikovsky while at least cutting the time
period down from millions of years to about 2000, has accordingly overrated the
scale of the Exodus catastrophe.
There is a slim possibility that Velikovsky might place the Flood at the
time of the dinosaurs. This can easily be discounted. Stone Age Man could not
possibly have survived in a world of flesh-eating dinosaurs like the 18 foot
tall Tyrannosaurus Rex. Besides, in Kummel’s book on p. 37 we find a chart that
clearly shows the dinosaurs drowned because of massive invasions of shallow seas
upon the continents. The actual figures are 75% sea water drownings and 25%
continental rain water and river delta drownings. For the Age of Mammals the
figures are reversed: 20% are drowned by shallow sea invasions and 80% by
lowland continental and upland fresh water. The book of Genesis makes it clear
that the Deluge drownings were caused by forty days and nights of rainstorms.
Once more this favours the Cenozoic era and not the Mesozoic or Dinosaurian
era.
A possible new sequence of the geological ages might be:
Cenozoic
Holocene – Neolithic. Bronze, Iron
Pleistocene. Tertiary – Noachian Deluge – many
giant forms of today’s mammals become extinct (cf. Genesis 6:4)
Palaeocene – period of change between dinosaurs and
mammals
Mesozoic. Palaeozoic – Land and sea creatures of
the Dinosaurian era. They are contemporary and not separated by hundreds of
millions of years as under the conventional scheme. Mostly destroyed by sea
wave invasions caused by comet strikes in the oceans.
[End of article]
Were
Dinosaurs included in Noah’s Ark?
Hardly!
At: http://www.oldearth.org/flood.htm
we read (slightly adapted)
Dinosaurs
... creation science
proponents are quick to use dinosaur graveyards as evidence of Noah’s Flood.
They claim the dinosaurs herded together, and then were quickly buried.
However, this explanation is not feasible.
The dinosaur graveyards
referred to are mostly in North America, in sediments in Utah, Wyoming,
Colorado, Montana, and Canada. However, looking at the positioning of the rock
layers, there are thousands of feet of sediment below these layers that the
young earth theorists claim were deposited by the Flood.
To make this more
understandable, let’s look at the Grand Canyon. Steven Austin, in his book
Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe, claims the Canyon rocks represent those
which were deposited during the rising waters phase of the Flood (Figure 4.1).
The “Late Flood”, or receding water rock deposits, are the Mesozoic sediments.
It is interesting to note that
all the dinosaur fossils, including the mass graves, are Mesozoic in age. This
means that all the dinosaurs died in the receding water phase of the flood.
However, it is clear from Genesis 7:21-23, that all life was killed during the
first 40 days of the Flood. Some young-earth theorists will argue that the
bodies floated around, and eventually sank, based on various factors as body
size, density, and so forth. However, this cannot be true, because the dinosaur
footprints all exist in the same Mesozoic rock layers, as do all the dinosaur
coprolites (fossilized dinosaur poop), and fossilized dinosaur eggs. Clearly,
the dinosaurs were alive and well, after the declaration in Genesis 7:21-23
that all living things were killed during the first forty days of the flood. ....
[End of quote]
For a greatly
reduced timetable for the Ice Ages, see Anne Habermehl’s article:
ANCIENT EGYPT, THE ICE AGE, AND BIBLICAL CHRONOLOGY
following Michael
J. Oard’s research in An Ice Age Caused
by the Genesis Flood (1990).
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